[00:00:00] Jeremy Zogby: What stands out is that the intensity from the anti-Trump Coalition, the anti-Trump voters, is high.
[00:00:09] John Zogby: I wouldn't call it a a, a romance with Donald Trump, but a disillusionment. with the Biden years,
[00:00:17] Are people proud or ashamed that Donald Trump is president?
[00:00:20] We also want to know, given what voters know today, who would they prefer to be in the White House?
[00:00:28] Would Good morning. It's Monday, March 3rd, a special edition of the Zogby Report. Real polling in real time. And that's what we have for you today. results of a brand new poll, which we're going to analyze. Good morning, Jer. How you doing?
[00:00:53] Jeremy Zogby: Hey, I'm, I'm doing well, and, like you, I spent the most of the weekend. Combing [00:01:00] through a lot of data, and so we've, we've got a lot for the, listeners and
[00:01:04] watchers.
[00:01:05] John Zogby: and here's what we're gonna do. we're gonna, first of all, now it's 42 days, that's six weeks of the new Trump presidency. Are people proud or ashamed that Donald Trump is president? And that's not a special question. We've been asking that ever since the Bill Clinton years of every president.
[00:01:25] So we'll have points of comparison. We also want to know, given what voters know today, who would they prefer to be in the White House? Would they want Kamala Harris or do they still want Donald Trump? We're gonna obviously look at his job approval rating and disapproval rating, but not only overall, we're gonna take a look at some of the key issues and notably Ukraine.
[00:01:51] That's what's on everybody's mind, today. And then, finally. We're gonna take a look maybe at the [00:02:00] Democrats and see if, they've got their act together as far as the public mind is concerned. Sound like a plan, Jer?.
[00:02:08] Jeremy Zogby: Yeah, I like it.
[00:02:09] John Zogby: Okay. So are you proud or ashamed? That Donald Trump is president of the United States.
[00:02:17] I think kind of a startling result here. Overall, what we've discovered is that 45% of plurality say that they're ashamed that he's president of the United States. However, 36% say they are proud. That he's president and another 16% are undecided, haven't made up their minds. Now, here's a guy who, as we'll see, is pretty much running a tie, among the American people, on his, some of his policies and overall job approval.
[00:02:53] And yet when it comes to, I guess this is a, a, a deportment or [00:03:00] behavior part of a report card. his behavior, there's a big fall off here. What do you think is going on? 45? Proud or ashamed that he's president and 30. I wanna make sure I get it right. Again, 36% proud.
[00:03:19] Jeremy Zogby: Well, I think what's happening here is this reminds me of leading up to the election. we were talking about response to the, the Trump shy vote. I thought it was more accurate to say that there was, there was a, a significant portion of the electorate who were tortured
[00:03:45] John Zogby: Mm-hmm.
[00:03:46] and that. You know, the conundrum for these undecided voters leading up to the election they didn't like really either candidate, and so it came down to [00:04:00] they knew they were going to get. so think we're in a, in a, at a point today still where it's not just like Trump or hate Trump, but there are those who neither like nor hate him. And, and just to either accept that he's the president or that he's the man for the job. Now, I just want to clarify, that 16% in this question, stated that they are neither proud nor ashamed.
[00:04:30] And so, in that 16% is, is a bit of a buffer zone, for the president. where I, I would, I would argue that, a portion of that.
[00:04:44] Jeremy Zogby: Are more or less with him? We'll, we'll, we'll go deeper as we look at, or disapproval. And then the very key question, who voters would prefer today, but I mean, clearly the, the, what stands out [00:05:00] is that the intensity from the anti-Trump Coalition, the anti-Trump voters, is high. it's, it's higher. And, and that, and that's, that's no surprise.
[00:05:12] John Zogby: So, let's go deeper for one second, because as you note in your notes and analysis here, those, who tend to be neither proud nor ashamed, tend to be independent, under the age of 45 and moderate. Now, Donald Trump did particularly well, better than expected among voters under 45. But do you think that these are voters now that are just sort of backing away a little bit from, I wouldn't call it a a, a romance with Donald Trump, but as you were alluding to just now a disillusionment.
[00:05:53] with the Biden years, with Kamala Harris refusing to distance herself from [00:06:00] some of, president Biden's policies and maybe just a gen genuine funk that they're in.
[00:06:07] Jeremy Zogby: Yeah, I, I mean, I, I think that, a, a, a, again, a portion of, of that, of those profiles, they, they look at the first 40 days and a good number of them. think went with Trump again, not because it was their stamp of approval and they were on the Trump bandwagon, but more or less it was a utility vote. It was that they, they, went with him. Trump won the presidency because more Americans, not necessarily jumped on the bandwagon, but that, that they, they thought the country. Would be in, either a little bit better of a place or significantly better place than the alternative.
[00:06:52] John Zogby: So here's the money shot question. In a lot of ways, characterizing Trump's [00:07:00] disruption. Within the first 40 days, there's a split. 35% say the President's disruption has a just cause and will result in positive outcomes. 38% believe the President's disruption is unnecessary and dangerous. And 21% have the opinion that Trump's disruption is needed, but they're concerned that it could spiral out of control.
[00:07:30] There's a lot of uncertainty here,
[00:07:32] Jeremy Zogby: Yeah.
[00:07:33] John Zogby: there? There isn't a kind of clarity that one would hope for, especially during a honeymoon period. And a period where an administration gets to define its value standards and its policies. Where we're at today is where we were on election day, a split, and I would say, a worried American people.
[00:07:58] Jeremy Zogby: Yeah. I mean, for some [00:08:00] context I this. These first 40 days is, I mean, as far as I know, as far as I can remember, and you're better at this because you go back, more decades than I do, but I, I don't think we've ever seen a liftoff in, in terms of presidential or executive actions or executive orders. I mean, what Trump has done, not just in areas of, of just the economy and immigration and Ukraine, but a whole host of issues with, executive orders and new statements and, and new memos, up completely departing with the Biden administration. this reminds me of, the famous saying that there are decades when nothing happens, and then there are weeks when decades happen.
[00:08:50] And, and I think that this, this is the most prominent example of that. With a President's first 40 days. And so naturally, you know, voters were already going [00:09:00] in into the election with some concern about the state of America, economically, geopolitically, and, you know, will these actions, us in a better place.
[00:09:11] There's so much of them, that it, it does seem to be creating some angst and, for this group. Who say that, it trump's disruption is needed, but it conspire outta control. It's more or less a wait and see.
[00:09:26] John Zogby: So when all is said and done,
[00:09:32] the big question is after this, it is tumultuous. you have Elon Musk, you have Elon Musk. Ex exclamation point, but then showing up, at a pec con convention with a chainsaw, is another image. But we asked the American people at this point in time, who would you prefer in the [00:10:00] White House, Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.
[00:10:04] And it's 48% still say that they prefer Donald Trump. He holds. His base, 43% say that they would prefer Kamala Harris to lead the, the, the nation that in other words, through all of this, the Democrats have not been able to not only make hay out of the situation, but present, you know, a reasonable alternative.
[00:10:32] I think that's a real statement about the Democrats, which we'll get into. I'll get into, once I hear from you right now.
[00:10:40] Jeremy Zogby: I, I mean, what's fascinating is that five point spread of, whi which you prefer today. Of course, you know, we can't forget that. I think it was 9% were were undecided. But still, you know, this, this, this notion that Trump had a mandate, after the election, he still has, the mandate. In [00:11:00] fact, if you compare this to the popular vote, the spread is even wider.
[00:11:07] today, 48% prefer Trump over Harris, and then you drill down. and, and what we see is, with Hispanics, they're split. 30% of blacks, for Trump. you look at men in general, and then there's a, a, a 13 point, spread, meaning 13 points higher for Trump. then women are are split. And so the coalition, the governing coalition remains.
[00:11:39] But as you alluded to, a lot of this could be driven by the democratic response or. Lack thereof. So, I mean, what, you know, what, what do these numbers we have, on the Democratic response, what, what does that tell us?
[00:11:59] John Zogby: [00:12:00] let's look at it right now. The Democrat voters were asked to grade Democratic party's overall response to the first month in office. have they articulated a vision relatable to the American people? 63% say negative. Only 17 per 28% said that they do. Then voters were asked whether Democrats have gone back to the drawing board successfully.
[00:12:29] Only 21% say that they have, basically a sense that the, either the Democratic party has gone AWOL or. That it just simply can't figure out who it is. I will say in closing that on the, two major issues of the moment on the president's handling of Ukraine, the American people are split at about 45% Trump's [00:13:00] policy versus, the, support, strong support for Ukraine on immigration, which is, you know, an issue that, that republicans really benefit on. 58% look like they support president on, on that. And, only somewhere in the thirties do they oppose the president. And so after six weeks of six weeks of, of, Disruption. president's still in the driver's seat, but there are some lurking shadows here and not having, 45% of the American people, not only not proud, but having them ashamed that you're president of the United States. Not a good sign going forward.
[00:13:51] Jeremy Zogby: Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I, I mean, I, I think, I, I think you nailed it there. I [00:14:00] think just, regarding the democratic response. one thing that jumped out in the data, and, and I didn't include this, but I will now, was, whether voters thought that the democrats, the Democratic response to whatever Trump, had to say about, the issue of the day, whether they were being proactive or, or whether they were being reactive.
[00:14:27] And, and just like the numbers here, most voters, And particularly republicans and independents thought that the democratic responses to whatever, Trump's statements or, or actions were, were too reactive. And that just goes back to, lacking the vision. So I mean, no, no doubt about it. has played into Buttressing, the president.
[00:14:52] There's a lot of moving parts here, as we've discussed, but it is an opportunity. for, for the [00:15:00] party, the op party of opposition to get attacked together. They, they have some time and, and you know what, I'll leave it on this note. People are already talking about the midterms 2026. And so, we, we'll see what momentum both parties are able to call up and capitalize on.
[00:15:20] John Zogby: Okay, so in closing a big week. This is Monday, Tuesday evening. The president goes before Congress and delivers the mandated state of the union message. We'll be back later in the week, with an assessment of. That speech and reaction as well as, some more news from the poll that, We just released today with some more data to be released.
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